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24 septembre 2014

Naomi (Indonesia) : Another vision of the European nationalism


Can you introduce yourself ?
I’m Indonesian, more specifically Bataknese but I was born in Jakarta, the capital. I lived more than half of my life abroad at this point: as a child I lived 2 years in Australia and when I was 14 my family moved to Hungary as expatriates, then I went to university in the US for university – with six months abroad in Argentina –, and now I live in Italy. Fluently I speak English, Spanish and Indonesian, but I’m learning Italian of course.

How did you find yourself becoming a Nazbol, reader of Alain de Benoist and going to the yearly Casapound Tana Delle Tigri ?
I became interested in fascism actually when I was in high school, I don’t even remember from where because of course most high school history courses put such ideologies in a bad light, especially in Europe. I went through more “political transformations” in university (in fact I think I identified as an anarcho-communist at some point embarrassingly!) then discovered national bolshevism and writers such as Aleksandr Dugin when I moved to Italy. Together with that, I also decided to read more into other writers to move beyond just “The Fascist Manifesto” (still my favorite) such as Alain de Benoist, Julius Evola, etc. To be honest though, at this point I don’t know what exactly I would “label” myself as anymore – fascist, national bolshevist, whatever –, all I know is that I am a nationalist, a socialist, and believe in tradition and hold mostly “conservative” or “right-wing” beliefs. I think the best way to describe it is in the words of the first president of Indonesia, Soekarno: "In my political outlook, I’m nationalist. In my social outlook, I’m socialist. In my religious outlook, I’m completely theist. That I am! I’m not a communist, not at all satellite of any other “-ism” in the world. I’m just pro-Indonesia. I’ll fight and work and sacrifice myself for this Indonesian people, this Indonesian fatherland of mine." As for going to Tana dell Tigri, I got in touch with Casapound actually through Zentropa ! Going to Tana delle Tigri was an amazing experience, to see so many Europeans who want to take back their country and are proud of their heritage, which is unfortunately rare due to Western ethnomasochism. So, currently I also try to be involved and attend as many events as I can that are hosted by my local Casapound chapter.

What does evaluating in the greater Europe nationalist world represent for an Indonesian native ?
The “scene” is quite diverse, and of course there are good and bad parts. For the most part, I think most of the groups have very good intentions, and there are many groups that I support such as Golden Dawn and Front National. Unfortunately, there are also simple race nationalists who advocate for pan-europeanism in a way that I think is actually negative – one that is basically a melting pot ideology, but only for Europeans, and in the end is just another form of “multiculturalism” (but white!) However, thankfully in my experience these are not the majority.

Do you see common points between Asian nationalism and European nationalism ?
Well one of the largest differences of course is with the public reaction to nationalism. In Indonesia, the status quo is to be a nationalist: every presidential candidate declares themselves a nationalist who wants to priorities Indonesians in Indonesia, for example, which is unthinkable in Europe because nationalism is viewed in such a bad light. Even some statements I have heard in the debates of the presidential elections last year would be frowned upon in Europe, with the candidates proclaiming that they want to secure our borders as much as they can. However, I see common points such as being proud of your ancestral land, of wanting unity within the peoples of your nation (perhaps slightly different in Indonesia since we have hundreds of ethnic groups to unite! Quoting Soekarno again: "It was [the concept of] nationalism that Indonesia was established on. Not the Javanese, not the Sumatran, not the Bornean, Sulawesi, Bali or others, but the Indonesian, that together became the foundation of one nationale staat (nation-state)."), and of course putting the needs of the native population as a priority above foreigners. With the last point I think many people don’t understand because I’m technically an immigrant, but of course as someone whose family has spent time and money to not only enter but also remain legally in Hungary during their stay, I am against illegal and mass immigration, especially of those who don’t end up contributing to their host nation and instead cause issues and problems. This stance of course also applies to Indonesia, where we have also received “refugees” in amounts although smaller than Europe, but similarly then become a burden to our society.

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